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Verbotene Liebe: What do you think of Marlene & Rebecca? (Possible Spoilers)

The love story between Rebecca von Lahnstein and her (ex- and soon-to-be) sister-in-law Marlene has been developping for almost 6 months now. There have been kisses, love-making, heartache and a lot of longing looks. At the moment, Marlene is getting ready to marry Tristan, Rebecca’s brother, but if you’ve read the spoilers, you know that this wedding is already doomed.

In my review of the first few months of the storyline and also a lot of my comments and tweets about it so far, I have made no secret of the fact that I’m not its biggest fan. Granted, “Marbecca” are cute. And yes, the acting is getting better and better. But it’s been dragging on for way too long, and every time Marlene says that she loves Tristan it’s just so not convincing that I’m tempted to yell at my TV scream out of sheer frustration. (Actually, I might have done that once or twice…) It also might have something to do with the fact that I don’t like watching soap operas and telenovelas in general, even though “Verbotene Liebe” is actually one of the better ones and they’re doing a very good job with the Alzheimer’s storyline.

But judging from the positive comments on this blog and also the original German version of Rosalie & Co. as well as the number of viewers on both blogs, it’s obvious that there are a lot of fans out there who disagree with me, who love the storyline and can’t wait to find out what’s going to happen next.

So maybe you can help me understand: What is it about the love story of Marlene and Rebecca that makes you watch it? Why do you love it? And is there something that you maybe don’t like and would like to be changed?

I’m looking forward to your comments.

Even though she tries, Marlene (Melanie Kogler, right)
cannot stop thinking of Rebecca (Tatjana Kästel)

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9 Kommentare

  1. well, nothing compares to Jemma!
    Compared with them and the whole way of storytelling, Marbecca seems very flat and longwinded. whereas I’d often wished Jemma had more time to slowly develop and just enjoy a happy moment (episode), Marbecca is stretched and stretched.
    I’ve always watched it more because of the role of Rebecca and Tatjana Kästel. I found her character set-up interesting (boyish AND girlish at the same time). Marlene never was my type – I often found her to artificial.
    Emma and Jenny? I loved both.
    I just hope that if Marbecca get together, VL doesn’t put them on the sideline immediately. It seems VL can’t tell stories of couples – it’s always only about the problems and angst before and afterwards most of them dissapear.

    Atm Jelly (Jen + Tilly from Hollyoaks) are more interesting to me. Lets see if this changes when Marbecca finally get together.

  2. Ich kann die Skepsis gut verstehen. Und ich müsste lügen wenn ich behaupten würde ich hätte nicht Angst dass die beiden als Paar überhaupt nicht funktionieren von der Chemie her wenn sie mal zusammen sind, dass sie vielleicht eher so wirken als würden sie in ihrer Freizeit miteinander Karten spielen und sich die Haare flechten anstatt Sex zu haben 😉 Aber das wird man wohl erst sehen wenn es dann so weit ist und zumindest scheinen sowohl VL als auch die Schauspielerinnen durchaus motiviert (auch wenn das natürlich kein Garant ist dass es funktionieren wird).

    Was in dran mag: Ich glaub der beste Weg es zu beschreiben ist zu sagen ich finds amusing. Das ist einfach VL pur. Das ist echt “Sie kleckern nicht, sie klotzen”. Da schmettert schon mal das Signaturlied des Paares aus den Lautsprechern während die Figuren angsty durch die Wälder laufen und dann wird noch die Originalsängerin eingeladen um das Lied direkt in der Serie zu singen. Da wird auch schon mal jede kleine Wendung in den Emotionen betrachtet als wäre es ein Weltuntergang. Ich verstehe absolut wem es zu viel Kitsch und zu wenig character ist. Wobei ich das als eine allgemeine VL Krankheit betrachte (von der meiner Meinung nach nicht mal die vielgelobte Alzheimerstory befreit ist). => aber innerhalb der VL Welt ist es nunmal so dass Kitsch eine Auszeichnung ist und dass es insoweit die Wertschätzung von VL zeigt wenn sie da alle Register ziehen. Marbecca ist halt eben nicht eine speciality story die irgendwo läuft und Leuten was beibringen soll oder wo die Autoren bei jeder Szene dreimal jede Zeile durchlesen und überlegen ob das 1.) nicht politisch korrekt ist 2.) irgendwelche Fundis verärgern könnte (und um ehrlich zu sein, nicht mal in vorbildlichen Serien wie zb Lost Girl habe ich das Gefühl dass sie davon frei sind, selbst dort schaut man extra dass es bloß nicht “zu viel” wird während andere Sendungen fast zu brav und betulich sind mit der Bemühung ja nichts falsch zu machen). Marbecca gibt mir das Gefühl es ist völlig zügellos, unapologetic in dieser Hinsicht mit all dem guten und dem schlechten was es bedeutet => und deswegen zumindest interessant anzusehen.

    Die Krankheit von Marbecca ist für mich ein wenig die Krankheit von VL allgemein, dass VL zur Zeit eher nur auf Emotion geht und einen eher einlädt das Gehirn auszuschalten und zu fühlen und nicht mitzudenken. Lass dich gehen, schmachte mit. Manchmal geht das, machmal ist das etwas zu unbefriedigend. Aber unique ist es in meinen Augen schon eher. (zb die letzten Folgen da mit dem Kleider contest)

    Was ich ändern würde: Tja ich bin da wohl seltsam weil die Sachen die ich ändern würde sich vermutlich sehr unterscheiden von dem was alle anderen ändern würden. zb mir ist es egal dass es ewig dauert oder dass Marlene hin und her eiert. Für mich gehört das zu VL, grade wo VL eh völlig untalentiert ist wenn es darum geht Paare zu schreiben die zusammen sind. Und je schneller ein Paar zusammen kommt desto weniger glaubwürdig wirken sie meistens im VL Kontext. Ich hätte eher geändert dass ein paar Details besser geschrieben sind. Zb ich finde Tristan mittlerweile echt schwach geschrieben. Ich hätte ihm zb sein eigenes kleines Arc gegeben war wirklich gut erklärt warum er fast schon ungesund blind an Marlene hängt. Ich finde die Einbindungen mit den anderen Figuren und Geschichten hätte besser laufen können. zb ärgerlich dass Tanja erst jetzt wirklich inkludiert wird. Oder man hätte mehr overlap Einbauen können wenn Marlene Dana berät die von ihrem Mann betrogen wurde, was das heißt wie Marlene fühlt im Bezug auf ihren eigenen Betrug. Dann hätte man leicher Emotion und character haben könnten anstelle von Emotion statt character.

    • Thanks for your interesting comment. Next time, please remember to write in English, so all the other fans have a chance to understand your thoughts as well and maybe comment on them, too. 🙂

  3. i love it…i had a little “low point” in the middle of the story,when i found it a bit boring…but now i love it..maybe i’m easy to please, i know the main storyline is not really new or anything…but i say it loud and proud: i love the length,the angst,the up and down,the “soapyness” and most of all: i love both actresses!!!

    nur weiter so,ich bleib dran..marbecca forever 🙂

  4. I love how Rebecca (after coming back New York) has always been beside Marlene during her tough times (rape, abortion, loss of confidence, …) as a very, very good friend. Story was developed and Rebecca’s feeling has slowly changed from just great friend to more than that. Marlene is also aware of how important Rebecca for her and how understanding Rebecca is. Marlene even said to Tristan that Rebecca made her be able to feel something about herself after that rape and abortion period.

    Even though, the storyline become a bit boring and annoying during Marlene’s denial (push and pull) period, one thing that never has changed is how much and true love Rebecca has given to Marlene. Some might say that Rebecca is lack of decency in falling in love with her brother’s fiancee and trying to pursue that. If we remember, at first Rebecca said to Oil that she would try to subdue her feeling towards Marlene. She tried to do the right thing but it’s not that easy. Up until that spin-the-bottle kiss changed everything and triggered the spark between Marlene and Rebecca. Then there was no turning back. Even after that, Rebecca also tried so many times to stop loving Marlene and let Marlene be happy with Tristan.

    Especially, episode 4141 and 4142, Rebecca showed that she love Marlene more than herself. She can’t stand watching Marlene unhappy. She decided to design and make the wedding dress for Marlene in order to make everything perfect when Marlene will be at the altar with Tristan. This is REAL LOVE.

    I like to see the development of love between Rebecca and Marlene. Right now, Rebecca can express unselfish love towards Marlene but Marlene still cannot. We might need more time for Marlene to prove her love for Rebecca.

    This back-and-forth between man and woman storyline happened so many times but I love the acting of TK and MK, including the jealousy in the Juliette period. I think TK and MK make Rebecca and Marlene love story believable.

    In conclusion, even I realize that the storyline is a bit cheesy and back-and-forth, it is still a wonderful LOVE story with the great help of the actors playing Rebecca and Marlene.

  5. Thanks for all your comments so far. 🙂

    So, yesterday was THE episode, 4151. Have you seen it yet? What do you think?

    I have to say that it’s become easier for me to watch the storyline the last few weeks, not just because I knew that this episode was coming up, but also because of the writing and acting. I like how the writers let Tanja express all of the frustrations the viewers probably had, and it has become more and more obvious just how attracted Marlene still is to Rebecca and how much she still feels for her. Also, did you notice that in episode 4150, Marlene actually said that she cannot marry Tristan because she loves Rebecca? She just said it to herself, but I think that she finally actually acknowledged her feelings.

    As for 4151, for people who don’t read spoilers, that must have been very hard to watch – Rebecca with her packed suitcases, ready to leave, and Marlene at the altar, about to marry Tristan. In addition to that, Rebecca wasn’t even in the opening credits anymore. But of course, by the end of the episode, it became clear that Marlene cannot marry Tristan because of Rebecca. After all, how can you marry someone if you see their sister, who you secretly love, standing right next to them at the altar (especially if she’s not actually there?). That was a little bit too much soap opera for me, but on the other hand, it IS a soap opera. 😉

    So, what do you think?

  6. From the beginning on I had a big problem watching this storyline. As you mention too, it is way too soapy for me. There are so many cliches in it and just the thought that Marlene has been intimate with three of the five siblings is beyond me. I know, i know, it’s called Verbotene Liebe for a reason. It doesn’t make it any better.

    But at some point this storyline got to me. Especially Tatjana’s acting. I really felt for Rebecca when she told Marlene that she poored all of her love and desire into the dress. It almost makes me want to root for these too. And see them happy together.

    And for me that is the silver lining i take away from this show. Nowadays there are so many lesbian storyline being told all around the world. And it’s great that people can pick their favorite. I would still like to see even more lesbian stories out there, but atleast we don’t have to get by on table scraps anymore. Marbecca won’t make it in my ‘top 10 favorite storylines’ but someone else might relate to it and have the courage to come out because of it.

  7. What I like about this storyline is how it reminded me of when I first fell in love with my girlfriend/wife of 15 years. She had never been with a woman before and fell flat in love with me. Now, we didn’t have the soap opera added drama of a brother but many of the feelings were the same. I agree the acting got better and better as they went on and got to know each other. I would say that the length of the story had to do with aging Rebecca in the mind of the audience. VL has many stories and this is just one, it takes time to do it right.

  8. 1st all, Big Thanks for VL Production over making the qualitative series by being able to relate diverse concepts and important ideas in meaningful design.
    2nd, As far as concern to Marbecca storyline – They are both good!!!
    For my opinion, Melanie Kogler showing impressive performance role along Marbecca story (including Tristan and the others). So far – as it looked, she has great ability to articulate variety of emotions in authentic way. her naturally directed style brings an extraordinary charisma and talent for the series – whereas the most surprising thing- her active role gives hope & inspiration…
    As far as concern to Tatjana, it might indicate that she is a very good defender, outer and belonging adequately for her role. in general, they are both brings great contribution for the series, But… when Marbecca become a pair the rules must change – Please follow;
    Basically, The MS scenario is varied but lately its dealing (too much) on Tristan feelings (Hate and Revenge) and not Marlene & Rebecca true love story.
    Therefore, Marlene & Rebecca characters seems to be on “Reacting” mode neither pure “Acting”.
    An interpersonal relationships also have a role for shared mature feelings or understanding of another person’s feelings (e.g. empathy, belonging, concern etc.). Its impossible to detached feeling from their meaningful context – Feelings to basic life-situation that we can find Marlene & Rebecca involve on and on.

    The bottom line:
    I’m agree with the first comment writer above: “It seems VL can’t tell stories of couples – it’s always only about the problems and angst before and afterwards most of them disappear”. but it also looks as big challenge:
    New script should be write and MAST BE continue for Marbecca relationship in VL.